Stop Walking. Start Transmitting : Echoes Through Stone – Part VII

Hi Michael. Hi, Giovanni. How are you? Yeah, good mate, good, good.

That's good, that's good. Good to connect. I'm glad we were able to do so earlier. So that's really good.

Okay, so where I love to start these discussions, if you don't mind, is I'd love for you to just share with me what inspired you to reach out to my wife on TikTok. What did she say they got you interested enough to book an appointment? Well, I saw your videos, but was that first? I just started liking what you were saying, and then I read a few more, I went to your page and I said, watch you more videos.

I just, yeah, it felt like what you were saying was resonating, so I thought space, you know? Okay. And what's the motivation for wanting to have a discussion with me? Well, I've been self-employed for a long time, and it's just basically everything's coming to an end.

I know what's happening with the banks, you know, they're blowing up and they're calling me. And yeah, I want to be out of the rat race, so this became, you know, always be, you know, have something back me up, you know? Okay. All right, no worries.

So what about, so do you have money in the bank or whatever else that you want to be about to be more? Pardon? Yeah, I have money in the bank and obviously I'm a target, so I've got, I've got money at home. But, you know, I went through a divorce five years ago, so I pretty much lost every factor of start, five from scratch again, you know?

So I've got four kids, but like, it was pretty, yeah, so I didn't get much out of it, and she got most of it, you know? I, yes, I do know because I've been through a divorce as well with Keith, so I know exactly how that turns out for men. That's right. Yep, so I totally did.

For a first couple of years, I've talked quite dejected and I just, yeah, just floated through, you know, like, I kept working on this for my business, but I didn't have a, I lost a, I lost her first, you know, I was just, yeah, just slowly, you know? We could have a bigger discussion in a different context, I think, because of the stuff that I've done over the last few years, because I'm also a psychologist and I, anyway, I won't, I won't get into all of that. No, no, no, I like it, that's fun. Yeah, I'm sure you do, but I don't have time for it.

You're busy, you're busy. Okay, so give me, just so that I can direct this conversation or sort of leave the conversation a little bit. Can you give me a bit of an idea of only what sort of, what sort of money you have available to you so that I can direct you in the right way here? Yeah, you know, I've probably, I've got close to 100 in the bank and, and at home, yeah, probably another 40, 50, you know?

Yep, yep, okay. All right. Yeah. And I mean, I've got, I've got assets that I can, you know, liquidate it, I want, like, you know, but yeah, just, that's okay.

That's okay. So look, fundamentally what this is, it's a blockchain based strategy, which you probably guessed already. It's not, it's not cryptocurrency because cryptocurrency is volatile. Yeah.

What, what I've been doing, I've used to be a financial advisor and I'm not anymore, but I used to be. And when I got out of doing that, I moved into the blockchain about 10 years ago or so. And I've just been educating myself over the last 10 years, but over the last two or three years, more so than anything else, I've been really, really focused on finding good quality platforms that provide predictable, dependable income that we can count on where our money is safer than if we left it in the bank, right? Okay.

Because the bank is not safe and we know that and neither is the share market. The whole system is. No, it's, it's all about this game. It's, it's, it literally is a huge pyramid scheme, right?

Yeah. And so, and so, you know, I don't trust it. And Amanda and I don't have any bank accounts anymore. Any bank accounts in our name, we've got nothing because we've moved everything into the blockchain and we're earning anywhere between eight and a half and 10% per month on our money.

And, and with those profits, we're able to put those profits onto a decentralized card, an account which we can use anywhere that takes Visa or MasterCard. And we, we tap and go, we pay for all the things that we want to pay for. We can take cash out of the ATM if we want to. We can buy things online and none of it is surveilled, monitored by the government at all and the, and the ATO can't see any of it.

So it's really. That's another big scam. Yeah. Of course.

They're owned by private corporations. Yep. Yep. That's exactly right.

Yeah. I've got the thing at home. I have printed off yesterday. Oh, very good.

Very good. Yeah. Yeah. Okay.

Cool. So that's the basic strategy. So the, you know, when I say eight and a half to 10% per month, it's, there's a couple of different platforms that we use to provide this predictable, dependable income. One of them is in cryptocurrency mining, but you don't have to have a cryptocurrency mining machine.

These, this is basically purchasing a license for equipment that already exists in mining farms around the world. And, and you're just paid 8.5% per month on the, on the value of your license that you purchase. So there's, so there's that, that's a little bit more complex. Then there's a more simple strategy, which is essentially, there's a platform, which is we, we put our money in, we buy a trading package and the trading packet and our money goes into a pool with everybody else.

And there's, these expert traders that go off and they trade in the crypto market, the foreign exchange market, gold and silver, et cetera, et cetera. And that returns us about 10% per month. So what I always say to people is that if you want to start to start this journey towards decentralization and getting out of the system, these are the two platforms that are secure and safe, dependable, predictable. You can count on these for your money every month, you know, and, you know, and I mean, nothing has no risk to it.

Everything's got an element of risk to it. Nothing's guaranteed. But what I will say is that as you probably already know, the system is not safe at all right now. And so, and that's the first one that's going to be hit.

That's right. Our terms come in, you know, absolutely it is. So we just have to make smart choices with our money. And, you know, it may not involve moving a hundred grand over, you know, straight, straight away because you probably need to get that element of comfort and security that it works.

And you want some evidence that it works for you. So what a lot of people do to begin with is I might go, all right, cool, I've got a hundred grand or I've got whatever I've got. And people generally, what they do is they put 20 or 30% of what they've got into one of the platforms just to get started. And then they can, and then what will happen is you will see the evidence pretty quickly that you're getting your money that you can withdraw it, that you can use it.

And then what happens very quickly over the next few weeks is you go, well, this is crazy. Why would I keep money in the bank when I can earn 10% per month on it? And I can see the evidence of that. That's good.

So that's what we're doing. And that's what we're sharing with people. So what can I do for you from here? Is this something that you would like to get started with with something or what would you like to do?

Yeah, yeah, I would like to start. OK. All right, no worries, Giovanni. What I'll do is I'll send you an email in a minute.

And that'll have the details to just get started with the, I think probably to begin with what I kind of say to people is the trading platform is probably easier to get your head around because it's very similar. It's blockchain based, but it's very similar to what a stock broker might do. So it's easy for people to get their head around, whereas the cryptocurrency mining, little bit more complicated, there's more moving parts to it. So that's probably something that you might get involved in.

Once you start something simpler, you know? OK. Yeah. So I would say that's a good place to start.

So what I'll do is I'll send you an email now. If you don't get it in the next 20 minutes, if it's not in your inbox, it'll be in your spam or junk folder. If you don't see anything in either of those places, just send me a text and I'll figure out what's happened, but you should get it. You should get it.

OK. No problem. And if you've got any questions, just let me know. It looks like a really complicated process, but it's really not.

If you just sat down for an hour or two, one night and you just... I'll do it. Yeah, definitely. OK.

It's definitely... It's something that's happening, that's happening, that's happening, that's happening and people are connected and, you know, like the future's happening right before us. So... It is.

You know? Exactly. Because either way, look, I could be fearful, so I'm going to keep my money in the bank and then one day I've got to get my money and I can't take it out anyway. It's gone.

So, you know, it's happening. It's going to happen first. Well, what's America for? Then we're going to fall.

What's the world's falling? Yeah. And all we have to make sure that we do is make sure that we don't have money in the bank or we don't have debt. That's it.

As long as we don't have debt and money in the bank, we'll be fine. That's very good to go and have. I don't have debt. Yeah.

Which is a good thing. Yeah. Yeah. That's why I've held out.

So now I was playing a new track with, you know, like Spencer and the Grandma and you rigged and I said, no, fuck that. I'm not holding all that debt, you know? When it all falls down, you know? Like, you know, because I've no...

Something inside me telling me don't do it. Don't get caught. Because I've lived with debt before and it was the worst time in my life, you know? Yeah, me too.

Yeah. I remember those times well. So I'd have to, you know, like, and just grind it in just like, yeah, I just ground to the ground, you know, basically, you know, like a knob that's been... There's nothing left, you know?

No, I get it. You sold those, yeah. I get it. I get it.

That was the worst part of my life as well when I had so much debt that I, you know, I was just working all the time just to pay debt. Yes. Yes. And you can't enjoy that.

That's a lot from you. Yep. No, you can't. You can't.

It's not an existence, you know, you just... Yeah, it's just not a way to be, it's not the way to be. There has to be a better way. Like this world doesn't have to be the way it's set up.

That's right. Well, hopefully, hopefully together we'll create something different, you know? It takes people like you and me to do that. So...

Yeah. And there's a lot of people, Giovanni, that are doing it. So that's good. I know there is.

You're in good company. That's good. That's good, my friend. Cool.

I'm glad I spoke to Michael. It's a good name. Yes, it is. It is a good name.

Well, it is. I always loved Michael. The name. That's why I know my son Michael.

I'll tell you a little very quick story, personal story, but I'll tell you because you're Italian and I'm Italian and, you know, we're probably brought up Catholic as well, both of us. Yes. So when my mum was pregnant with me, well, when she was going into labour with me, there were complications. And she was a very religious woman, you know, my mother when she was alive.

And she prayed to Archangel Michael and she said, please, please, you know, if you let this baby be born safely, I'll name him after you. So I've never forgotten that story because my mother named me after Archangel Michael. So it was pretty special. That's why I named my son.

Yeah. Yeah, there you go. There you go. Beautiful.

All right, Giovanni, good to chat. I'm sure we'll talk you very much for your time. You're welcome. Lovely.

Bye.