(The Threshold) Crossing the Known

Hello, this is Emily. Hello, Emily. It's Michael. How are you?

Oh, I'm very well. Thank you. How are you? I wasn't sure if I was I wasn't sure if I was supposed to call but here.

Okay. No, here we are. I call everyone That's what I thought. Yeah, that's what I thought.

Yep. No, no, no, all good. Cool. Okay.

Well, let's have a chat So thanks for waiting for so long for an appointment. Oh, no problem. Really appreciate it. We've just been obviously very busy Yeah, yeah, I think so definitely it's good to see so many people wanting to get out of the system and Take some ownership of their lives, you know, yeah, absolutely.

It's really good to see Okay, so why don't you share with me what kind of inspired you to reach out to Amanda? I think I obviously saw her on tiktok, but I so my husband and I basically Look, I've been thinking about this probably for a couple of years now About getting out of the system, but I didn't know anything about it. So Phase one was basically to hammer and get our home loan paid off so it could not be Hold them to the bank. Yeah, very good.

Yep. Did you manage? Yeah? Yeah, we did that.

Yeah, month ago. Just excellent. Congratulations. Thank you.

So yeah I know once that's done I said okay next next step is to kind of it was funny that it just kind of happens, you know At the right time when I saw Amanda right about the time we were about to finish our home loan So that's when I started watching the videos and thought yeah, I need to typical call and Get on it. So yeah, that's all kind of well well well done. That's really good Okay, so you guys obviously have some money you want to move out of the system then? Yeah, well, not I mean Probably most of what I've been earning and my husband has been going to the home and I've just started Yeah, I'll probably go about 10,000 at the moment Okay, that I can that I can play with but basically my income now is just all mine like there's nothing You know, there's no more home loan or anything.

It's just good. It's not a good feeling. Yeah, that's really good Okay, cool. Well look basically Amanda and I I would say that we used two very different strategies which we which are like the bread and butter strategies and then there's all medium to high risk stuff but The ones that we talk with people about one of them is in cryptocurrency mining and minting so that's essentially the creation of cryptocurrency tokens so yeah to be clear we're not we're not invested in cryptocurrency because that's really volatile what we what we do is we have two different strategies one of them is cryptocurrency mining and minting so mining is the creation of Cryptocurrency coins and tokens and then the minting is when they go out to circulation There's and it's all digital of course with crypto So there's a process there that we basically purchase a license for these machines that these computers and machines that Create the cryptocurrency tokens and then mint them and send them out to be traded and bought and sold So that's one strategy that returns about eight and a half percent per month And then the other strategy is really good as well That's a trading platform where you've got these expert traders who pull all of our money together So we buy a trading package and that can be at whatever value you want to buy that And your money pretty good pretty much goes into a pool with everybody else and And they go off and they trade gold and silver and they trade in the foreign exchange market they trade crypto Liquidity pools all sorts of different things.

Okay, and then we're and then we're given a return of two to three percent per week Which averages out at about 10 per cent per month So that's pretty good return. So isn't it? Yeah, they're very good returns. They're very good returns And then you can choose what to do with that money, you know, some people some people want to You know Compound So that they grow their investment Some people want to withdraw and put it onto a decentralized card which we can help people get set up with And then you can go spend your money wherever it takes visa or mastercard, you know Any any shop online you can take cash out of an ATM And all that sort of stuff and other people like to then diversify out of these two platforms into Things that might be more high risk, but then offer the faint harder.

Let me tell you Okay, so there's there's there's there's safer Blockchain based strategies, which are the two that I just talked to you about and then there's other ones that are more high risk Higher returns high risk and you don't do that until you've got some Foundation, you know you do that Yeah, so with the mining the mining option is that is that bitcoin or is that a different Um because I know a little I don't know a lot about crypto of dabbled in a little bit Is that is that bitcoin or is it uh like an alternative coin kind of thing? Um, no, no, it's not well it doesn't It's the thing is we're purchasing a license. So we don't really we don't we don't really care about what coin they're mining And what coin because we're just so they won't be mining bitcoin they mine other coins um, but we've basically got a license so we're paid a percentage of the production of the of the Work that the machine actually does Okay, okay, so yeah, so it doesn't really matter what coin they're mining But if you really want to know most of them are mining a coin called file coin and file coin Is responsible in many ways for cloud storage And so you know when you think about cloud storage all the photos and videos and everything the people storing their Apple cloud and the google drive and dropbox and all sorts of different things Um, and with the metaverse coming which is virtual reality stuff that's going to be stored up in the cloud as well Um in cloud servers cloud server technology is growing and expanding and becoming more uh more required around the world so Okay, yeah, so what to get your head around? It is but I say to people you don't have to understand How the car works to drive it, you know and sometimes we can just benefit from the processes that happen on the blockchain From a financial perspective without necessarily having to understand all the mechanics around Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's how I feel well.

Yes, absolutely. So with the like so once you make an investment Um, can you can you start kind of small and then add to it? So so a month goes by and you you understand it can you add to that or is it kind of once you're in the pool? That's it's kind of closed off or can you add to it?

No, no, you can you can add to it you can definitely add to it So if you want to start with, you know a couple of thousand dollars in each one You can do that if you're something whatever whatever it is. Yeah, and then you can always add to it later on if you choose Oh, okay. So that's it's easy to do that. Oh, yeah, absolutely.

Absolutely. Okay. Well, that sounds good. Yeah I mean, I'm I'm definitely along the lines of You know driving the car without really understanding how it works.

Yeah But um, you know, I like you said, I Definitely, I'm not happy with the current system and and do feel quite vulnerable and you know Want to I'm looking at different options. So this sounds really good actually. Okay. All right.

No worries all good So what would you like to do from here? Would you like me to send you some information to get started? Yes, it'll be wonderful. Okay, please.

All right. No worries. I can do that for you Um that you'll get that on your email in the next probably in the next five minutes or so. I'll just say okay, straight away And um should I send you both or just one of them?

Um, no send me both. Yeah, okay. All right. No worries.

I'll do that for you now And if you've got any questions, all you need to do is reply to the email or Or just text me Okay, sounds good. So would you Sorry, go on. I was just gonna ask another quick question. Do you guys have superannuation?

Um, I don't have a lot because I have freelance most of my life. My husband does yeah, okay Because what I because what a lot of people are choosing to do is they're choosing to set up self-managed superannuation funds and then um and use their super for these For these investment strategies for these strategies as well Um because just like the banking system is on the verge of collapse the whole system is on the verge of collapse actually and And when the share market collapses, so too will people lose their super Um, so it's a it's a good time for people to be Setting up self-managed superannuation funds and rolling your super over into that and then Putting it into the blockchain if that's what you choose to do and what a lot of people are doing is they're using a website called e superfund.com.au And there you can set up your self-managed superannuation fund for about a thousand or eleven hundred dollars Instead of instead of paying an accountant, uh, five to seven grand to do it Well, yeah, actually my husband was we would actually just discussing Doing self-managed superfund and he he was looking into it Just he was getting a lot of conflicting advice and but but I think that's definitely something that we want to do 100% because he did lose he lost quite a bit of money during the during covid or was it during covid when the The market crashed or oh, yes something in the last few years. I mean he didn't lose a huge amount but probably 20 thousand dollars or something Well, he had to convert it over from I think shares to cash and then he did it put it back again and I mean he he has a better understanding of all that. Yeah, yeah, fair enough And look at the end of the day something that we've got to remember is that the system is on its last legs And so it's very very important to I guess just to begin to take some action, you know Absolutely.

Yeah. Yeah, that's that's what I want to do and get but definitely the self-mage superfund Portion if it sounds really good as well. So but I might start with just investing some money and then He he's actually oversees at the moment, but when he gets back We can discuss that for the year. I think I don't know.

I feel like the clock's ticking. It really is it really is Absolutely. Well, it's been good to chat. I'm gonna I've sent you that information already.

So Have you got my email? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you put it there when you book the call so it's all right. It's all there. So we're all good All fantastic.

I'll thank you so much for your time. I really appreciate it. It sounds very welcoming, Emily Sounds exciting. It really is.

It's a whole new world Yeah, it's wonderful. Excellent. Okay, great to chat and I'm sure we'll talk again soon. I hope so.

Thanks. Okay. Thanks Emily. Bye